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Post by Lux Ferae on Jul 1, 2015 8:34:49 GMT -5
I think here is appropriate. If not, please feel free to move/delete. Thank you.
Because I have no other outlet for discussion of stuff like this, I was hoping to get some comments regarding past lives.
Recently, I had someone telling me "You and I were blah blah blah de blah in a previous life and we were in ______ as ____ yadda yadda yadda. I know we were."
Since I have remembered previous lives, and that was discussed in conversation, although not in overly great detail, that is one previous life I don't particularly "remember," if that makes sense. Honestly, I found it rather disturbing to have someone telling me about a previous life of mine, especially one I don't recall, and also, since I didn't ask for that kind of information. Actually, I didn't ask that person to tell me anything at all of the sort and I can't imagine doing that to someone. I know damn good and well I wouldn't ever do that to someone.
I was politely honest with this person and they became angry with me and said they weren't going to talk to me any longer, which is fine. Since I was trying to figure out how to politely back away, because of some questionable comments they'd made to me regarding some things they believed and was convinced *I* had to believe right along with them, even though my experiences were different, I was really okay with being "ditched" in a manner of speaking. It saved me the hassle of trying to politely back away, if that makes sense.
I guess what I'm curious about is, if any of you would tell someone who hadn't asked about a previous life and be extremely overbearingly insistent that you knew better than they did about it. Ethically, that's not something I would ever do and I cannot imagine doing it to someone else. And I suppose this means I'm not a very good judge of character to have befriended someone who was so bossy with me about a supposed previous life.
Thank you for whatever comments.
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Post by Ashtart on Jul 2, 2015 1:59:55 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing your story. This is an excellent example of something that happens over and over again in the Otherkin community, and a good opportunity where boundaries should be drawn.
Certainly, it can be helpful for someone else to share their own memories and knowledge with us, but it should never be asserted over our own feelings and self- knowledge. This is for the simple reason that although you may feel and very well may be an all-powerful being, you still have a human brain filtering information like all the rest of us. You are no more likely to be accurate about someone's identity than anyone else, and certainly no more than the individual about her or himself.
Additionally, in my experience, not all truths belong to all people. "Truth" is a sticky thing, and there are many truths.
You were absolutely right to assert yourself. No one should ever demand that you accept their truth.
Any other opinions?
Ash
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Post by Lux Ferae on Jul 2, 2015 13:56:59 GMT -5
You are welcome, and thank you for the kind reply. I do greatly appreciate it.
I just wasn't certain if I'd the misfortune of running across someone who was being overly bossy with me or what. The thing is, I'd communicated with this particular person for well over a year before even admitting that I remembered some of my past lives because I've read of other situations other people have had which were similar and it was something I was trying to avoid. (Obviously, that didn't happen. LOL.)
The conversation went something like this; Other person: I'm a goddess. Me: Okay. (I'm not in any place to judge anyone else's experience. If she wants to believe she was/is a goddess, that's fine for her.) Other person: I'm a goddess, I was a goddess, and so were you! We were goddesses together! Me: Since I can remember my previous lives, I'm pretty sure I'd recall something like that and I wasn't ever a goddess, but thanks; seriously though, I'm certain I've only ever been a human. Other person: Oh, but you don't remember yet! That power has been taken away from you, it's been taken away from all of us! Me: All right then, well, not everyone remembers the same things and that's why some people recall some things and others don't, but thanks. (And then I changed the subject to something completely different and innocuous.)
Several other times, the conversation was pretty much repeated verbatim, and I decided it would be best to disregard anything that person said to me since the bossy thing wasn't going over too well with me. Nobody can remember anything for me. Only I can remember anything for me, and it's not my place to assert my memories over someone else's, if that makes sense.
Anyway, I'm pretty damn sure I'm not a goddess, I never was, and never will be. That said, if someone else remembers that, who am I to say they are or are not remembering correctly or incorrectly?
I really appreciate you taking the time to reply, since as I said, I don't have anywhere else as an outlet to discuss this sort of thing and I do respect what you have to say, Ashtart.
Yes, for what it's worth, I agree with you, truth is a sticky thing and there are many truths.
I suppose it's fortunate that person decided to become annoyed with me for being honest. It didn't give me the opportunity how to figure out the best way to back away slowly, since it was done for me, so that was a good thing.
Thank you for stating I was right to assert myself; I do appreciate it very much.
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Post by seventhwatcher on Jul 20, 2015 16:56:00 GMT -5
I've had that happen to me a Lot too. And yes, as soon as you start asking questions or pointing out inconsistencies? They flip out and try to, in a sense? It's very manipulative. People like that aren't worth keeping around unless you know how to handle them.They tend to be more trouble than they are worth
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Post by Lux Ferae on Jul 20, 2015 18:32:16 GMT -5
I've had that happen to me a Lot too. And yes, as soon as you start asking questions or pointing out inconsistencies? They flip out and try to, in a sense? It's very manipulative. People like that aren't worth keeping around unless you know how to handle them.They tend to be more trouble than they are worth Glad it's not just me this has happened to, although it sucks. Yeah, you could say this person flipped out when I didn't jump on their bandwagon and say the same thing they were saying and that oh yes, I remembered being a "goddess" or whatever. Now I will agree with the remote possibility I was a priestess in a temple of some sort. That, maybe, possibly, definitely a possibility. But a goddess? Nope, not gonna own that one. I agree, it is manipulative because then that opens up the whole what if they actually remembered more and then got pissy about it. Then it would be, "You lied to me, you said you remembered the same things I did and now that I remember more, you are/were wrong. I can't trust you because you lie." No thank you on a level of huge, huge, huge no way, not interested, not even going there! You're correct and I agree with you. That kind of person is high maintenance and definitely way more trouble than they're worth!
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Post by seventhwatcher on Jul 20, 2015 21:24:08 GMT -5
What I've started doing is simply focusing on what I remember and know I've experienced. When I say "know" I usually mean something others can say they at the very least felt the affects of. Others are things like, I generally know the difference between fantasy, dream, a message, and a revelation. What is valid now and what is no longer valid. Stick to that, not what others say you are.
There are exceptions to this though I prefer not state them to not put the expectation in your mind. Sometimes, others really do know what their talking about. I will say, those have generally not been positive experiences in my own case.
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Post by Lux Ferae on Jul 21, 2015 8:01:12 GMT -5
What I've started doing is simply focusing on what I remember and know I've experienced. When I say "know" I usually mean something others can say they at the very least felt the affects of. Others are things like, I generally know the difference between fantasy, dream, a message, and a revelation. What is valid now and what is no longer valid. Stick to that, not what others say you are. There are exceptions to this though I prefer not state them to not put the expectation in your mind. Sometimes, others really do know what their talking about. I will say, those have generally not been positive experiences in my own case. So you mean like relate-able, as in someone can relate to something you may remember or have experienced? Okay, breaking this down to process what you said since I need more coffee. Fantasy: Dreaming yourself into a Supernatural/Star Wars cross over. (Yes, I realize that is sort of silly.) Dream: Dreaming, possibly more than once, of something which can trigger a memory. Message: Researching something and finding something which correlates to something you thought was impossible or had absolutely no knowledge of before that particular point. Revelation: When something clicks in the brain, falls into place, or something is figured out that you then realize is true. Hopefully any or all of the above give validation to a potential connection to something you were/are drawn to and had no explanation for why the fascination with it. In my case, what isn't valid would be someone telling me I was a goddess. =) It's not that I'm not open to someone asking me "Do you remember this or that particular thing?" as much as I'm opposed to someone overly aggressively insisting that I was something I'm not. (For example, I like to cook. Am I a world class chef? Nope. I like horses. Am I a world class equestrian competitor? Again, nope. Far from it in both cases.) So, it's not that I object to someone else tossing something at me about such things, what I objected to was the manner in which it was done. Actually, if this sort of thing was discussed here, I would have no objection to it because I don't believe anyone here would have a reason to be A--overbearingly belligerent with me about something like this, B--have a reason to be manipulative with the thought of having something to gain from discussing something like this with me, and C--I don't think anyone here would have any reason to turn into a crazed, deranged online stalker. (And I apologize if I took any of this incorrectly, or broke it down incorrectly. Where I was once a coherent, articulate person, I was subjected to a year of being poisoned from chemo and now have brain damage as a result of it and I'm nowhere near as intelligent as I once was.)
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Post by seventhwatcher on Jul 21, 2015 9:54:53 GMT -5
What I've started doing is simply focusing on what I remember and know I've experienced. When I say "know" I usually mean something others can say they at the very least felt the affects of. Others are things like, I generally know the difference between fantasy, dream, a message, and a revelation. What is valid now and what is no longer valid. Stick to that, not what others say you are. There are exceptions to this though I prefer not state them to not put the expectation in your mind. Sometimes, others really do know what their talking about. I will say, those have generally not been positive experiences in my own case. So you mean like relate-able, as in someone can relate to something you may remember or have experienced? Okay, breaking this down to process what you said since I need more coffee. Fantasy: Dreaming yourself into a Supernatural/Star Wars cross over. (Yes, I realize that is sort of silly.) Dream: Dreaming, possibly more than once, of something which can trigger a memory. Message: Researching something and finding something which correlates to something you thought was impossible or had absolutely no knowledge of before that particular point. Revelation: When something clicks in the brain, falls into place, or something is figured out that you then realize is true. Hopefully any or all of the above give validation to a potential connection to something you were/are drawn to and had no explanation for why the fascination with it. In my case, what isn't valid would be someone telling me I was a goddess. =) It's not that I'm not open to someone asking me "Do you remember this or that particular thing?" as much as I'm opposed to someone overly aggressively insisting that I was something I'm not. (For example, I like to cook. Am I a world class chef? Nope. I like horses. Am I a world class equestrian competitor? Again, nope. Far from it in both cases.) So, it's not that I object to someone else tossing something at me about such things, what I objected to was the manner in which it was done. Actually, if this sort of thing was discussed here, I would have no objection to it because I don't believe anyone here would have a reason to be A--overbearingly belligerent with me about something like this, B--have a reason to be manipulative with the thought of having something to gain from discussing something like this with me, and C--I don't think anyone here would have any reason to turn into a crazed, deranged online stalker. (And I apologize if I took any of this incorrectly, or broke it down incorrectly. Where I was once a coherent, articulate person, I was subjected to a year of being poisoned from chemo and now have brain damage as a result of it and I'm nowhere near as intelligent as I once was.) You understood me well. and yah, I've usually had people put me down and try to demean me more so than anything. A few... changed their tune shortly afterwards. People in general are much more aware energetically than they let on. I'm sorry for what happened to you. If you like I can offer you healing? I focus on more subtle and energetic layers. Quantum and fields. Really, all you need to do is reach out when your next meditating. I'm always projecting. My energy is pretty destructive, but even an injury is a "thing" that can be destroyed and remade whole. It takes time, but my beloved went from 10+ seizures a day and a cocktail to not even needing her thyroid meds.
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Post by Lux Ferae on Jul 21, 2015 15:30:29 GMT -5
You understood me well. and yah, I've usually had people put me down and try to demean me more so than anything. A few... changed their tune shortly afterwards. People in general are much more aware energetically than they let on. I'm sorry for what happened to you. If you like I can offer you healing? I focus on more subtle and energetic layers. Quantum and fields. Really, all you need to do is reach out when your next meditating. I'm always projecting. My energy is pretty destructive, but even an injury is a "thing" that can be destroyed and remade whole. It takes time, but my beloved went from 10+ seizures a day and a cocktail to not even needing her thyroid meds. Thank you, glad I understood. My brain takes things too literally now and logics that out as acceptable, unfortunately. I can't imagine why someone would put you down. I don't think anyone here would do something like that. This feels like a safe place, if that makes sense. Once upon a time, I was way more aware of energetics. Now, not so much and the few abilities I once had have dissipated, unfortunately. Thank you for your kind words and your offer. Are you okay with doing something like that, though, since you don't know me? Quantum and fields, wow, not something I've been able to remotely wrap my brain around for several years now, the "gift" of brain damage keeps on keeping on and there's no way to fix it, although if you believe energetic workings may help, I may be willing to give that a try since that's something I've not actually tried. It's wonderful you've been able to help your beloved in such a manner! I'm amazed you've offered this sort of thing. Do you do it often? Was this an ability you acquired/learned, or one you were born with and became adept with it? Apologies, I'm just curious. Thank you again.
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Post by seventhwatcher on Jul 21, 2015 16:05:57 GMT -5
All the time though I've learned most people have chosen to dwell in their misfortunes. One person I sent healing to, she literally but up a bubble and a shield against it. Ended up doing far more damage than good. Even when she accepted it, to her core? She thought she could do better. She was a druggie so it's no surprise.
I have no issues with people drawing from me. I've specifically designed my energy from and matrix to be self sufficient and perpetual. What I'm offering is not a cure all, but damage like that goes deeper than just the physical body. From there, it's relearning. The body is an amazing vessel capable of all sorts of things if provided the essential building blocks it needs.
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Post by Lux Ferae on Jul 21, 2015 18:40:31 GMT -5
All the time though I've learned most people have chosen to dwell in their misfortunes. One person I sent healing to, she literally but up a bubble and a shield against it. Ended up doing far more damage than good. Even when she accepted it, to her core? She thought she could do better. She was a druggie so it's no surprise. I have no issues with people drawing from me. I've specifically designed my energy from and matrix to be self sufficient and perpetual. What I'm offering is not a cure all, but damage like that goes deeper than just the physical body. From there, it's relearning. The body is an amazing vessel capable of all sorts of things if provided the essential building blocks it needs. I'm sorry that she resisted when you were trying to help her. That sounds fascinating with what you've designed with your energy. I agree, that sort of damage can possibly go further than physical, and on into mental and emotional. Thank you for speaking with me about this. I appreciate your kindness very much.
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Post by seventhwatcher on Jul 21, 2015 20:05:04 GMT -5
Thank you for sharing. I'm hoping we all can find ways to help one another.
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Post by Lux Ferae on Jul 21, 2015 20:58:20 GMT -5
Thank you for sharing. I'm hoping we all can find ways to help one another. You are welcome. I hope so, too.
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